Word Family - Bid

December theme: Religion 📿

Introduction

*bʰewdʰ- vs. *gʷʰedʰ-: two families that end up being super confusing in Germanic languages, since *bʰ and *gʷʰ merge at the beginning of a word. In English, they end up being homophones with complementary/opposite meanings: "offer" vs. "ask for".

I had to do these two at the same time just to make sure I was tracking which words go where, because the dictionaries and other sources sometimes also mix them up. Even in the rest of the Germanic langauges where the two English bid s aren't complete homonyms the meanings can get awfully confusing; compare German bitten, to ask someone to do something (bid) vs. ver-bieten, to ask someone _not_ to do something (forbidden).

They probably don't have a common derivation. Probably. If they do, it's before reconstructable language.

Also, Happy Bodhi Day (Japanese Calendar variant).

Teaser

bid, forbid, Buddha, bid, bead, geas

Full Text

  • Proto-Indo-European *bʰewdʰ- to be awake, to be aware
    • Proto-Indo-European *bʰéwdʰeti being awake, being aware
      • Balto-Slavic *bljaustei
        • Slavic *bljustì to watch
          • East Slavic
            • Russian блюсти bljusti to guard, to keep, to watch over
          • South Slavic
            • Old Church Slavonic блюсти bljusti
            • Serbo-Croatian бљусти bljusti
      • Germanic *beudaną to offer, to bid, to command?
        • West Germanic *beudan
          • Old English bēodan to offer, to give, to announce
            • English bid [1]
            • Old English Bīeda
              • English (Saint) Bede (the Venerable)
          • Old High German biotan to offer
            • German bieten to offer, to present, to bid
        • Old Norse bjóða
          • Danish byde to order, to command, to invite, to offer
          • Icelandic bjóða to offer, to invite, to command
        • East Germanic
          • Gothic *biudan
        • Germanic *furibeudaną to forbid, to command against
          • West Germanic *furibeudan
            • Old English forbēodan to forbid, to restrain
              • English forbid
            • Old High German firbiotan
              • German verbieten to forbid, to prohibit
          • Old Norse fyrirbjóða
            • Danish forbyde to disallow, to forbid, to ban
          • East Germanic
            • Gothic 𐍆𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌱𐌹𐌿𐌳𐌰𐌽 faurbiudan to forbid
      • Hellenic *péutʰomai
        • Classical Greek πεύθομαι peúthomai I give notice that
          • Classical Greek πυνθάνομαι punthánomai I hear, I learn, I hear about
      • Indo-Iranian
        • Indo-Aryan
          • Sanskrit 𑀩𑁄𑀥𑀢𑀺 bódhati to wake, to know, to understand
            • Magadhi
              • Bengali বোঝা bojha to understand
        • Iranian
          • Avestan 𐬠𐬀𐬊𐬜𐬀𐬌𐬙𐬌 baoδaiti
          • Western Iranian
            • Old Persian
              • Persian بیدار‏ bīdār awake
    • Proto-Indo-European *bʰudʰtós one who has awoken, one who is known
      • Hellenic
        • Classical Greek πυστός pustós known, familiar, famous
      • Indo-Iranian
        • Indo-Aryan
          • Sanskrit 𑀩𑀼𑀤𑁆𑀥 buddha awoken, enlightened, the Buddha
            • Sauraseni
              • Pali Buddha the enlightened one, the Buddha
                • Thai พุทธ pút Buddha
                • Middle Chinese 佛陀 bɨutdɑ Buddha
                  • Mandarin Buddha
                  • Japanese 仏陀 / ぶつだ Butsuda Buddha
                  • Korean 부처 Bucheo Buddha
                • Sogdian bwt the Buddha, statue of the Buddha
                  • Persian بت bot idol, Buddha statue
                    • Hindi बुत but idol, statue, fetish
                    • Persian بت‌خانه‏ bot-khāne temple, shrine lit. "idol-house"
                      • Hindi बुत-ख़ाना but-khānā temple, pagoda
            • English Buddha
            • Hindi बुद्ध buddh Buddha
            • Telugu బుద్ధుడు buddhuḍu wise person, sage, enlightened person, the Buddha
        • Iranian
          • Avestan busta realized, oberved
    • Proto-Indo-European *bʰowdʰéyeti to make aware, to awaken causative imperfective
      • Balto-Slavic *baudeitei
        • Lithuanian báudyti incite, instigate, to encourage
        • Slavic *buditi to awaken, to rouse
          • East Slavic
            • Russian будить buditʹ to wake up, to awaken
          • South Slavic
            • Serbo-Croatian будити buditi to awaken, to rouse, to begin (of an era, etc.)
          • West Slavic
            • Polish budzić to awaken
      • Indo-Iranian
        • Indo-Aryan
          • Sanskrit 𑀩𑁄𑀥𑀬𑀢𑀺 bodhayati to awaken, to restore to life or consciousness, to cause to observe
        • Iranian
          • Avestan 𐬠𐬀𐬊𐬛𐬀𐬌𐬌𐬈𐬌𐬙𐬌 baodaiieiti
    • Proto-Indo-European *bʰudʰis awareness, awakeness, knowledge
      • Indo-Iranian
        • Indo-Aryan
          • Sanskrit 𑀩𑁄𑀥𑀺 bodhi perfecent knowledge, englightenment, bodhi
            • Pali 𑀩𑁄𑀥𑀺 bodhi perfect knowledge, englightenment, bodhi
              • Middle Chinese
                • Mandarin 菩提 pútí bodhi
                • Japanese 菩提 / ぼだい bodai bodhi
                • Korean 보리 bori bodhi
              • Thai โพธิ poo-tí bodhi
            • English bodhi
            • Sanskrit 𑀩𑁄𑀥𑀺𑀲𑀢𑁆𑀢𑁆𑀯 bodhi-sattva one on the way to enlightenment, Buddhist saint, bodhisattva
              • Pali bodhisatta bodhisattva
                • Arshian bodʰisattu bodhisattva
                • Middle Chinese 菩提薩埵 buo dei sɑt tuɑh bodhisattva
                  • Mandarin 菩薩 púsà bodhisattva
                  • Japanese 菩薩 / ぼさつ bosatsu bodhisattva
                • Thai โพธิสัตว์ poo-tí-sàt bodhisattva
              • English bodhisattva
              • Persian بودسف Bodisav
                • Arabic بوذسف Būdhasaf
                  • Arabic يوذسف Yūdhasaf hand writing mistake changed b to y [3]
                    • Georgian ჲოდასაფ Iodasaph [3]
                      • Greek Ἰωάσαφ Ioasaph [3]
                        • Latin (Sanctus) Iosaphatus assimilated to Biblical name יְהוֹשָׁפָט Yehoshafat [3]
                          • English (Saint) Josaphat [3]
    • Proto-Indo-European *bʰudʰyétor one who has been awoken, one who has been taught?
      • Indo-Iranian
        • Indo-Aryan
          • Sanskrit 𑀩𑀼𑀥𑁆𑀬𑀢𑁂 búdhyate to wake, to know, to understand
            • Magadhi
              • Bengali বোঝা bojha to understand
        • Iranian
          • Avestan 𐬠𐬏𐬌𐬜𐬌𐬌𐬀𐬉𐬙𐬀 būiδiiaēta they should be taught
    • Proto-Indo-European *bʰudʰéh₁yeti to be particularly awake? intensive imperfective
      • Balto-Slavic *budeʔtei
        • Lithuanian budėti to be awake, to watch, to be on duty
        • Slavic *bъděti
          • East Slavic бъдѣти bŭděti
            • Russian бдеть bdetʹ to keep watch, to keep vigil dated, literary
          • South Slavic
            • Old Church Slavonic бъдѣти bŭděti to watch over, to keep vigil
            • Serbo-Croatian бде̏ти bdȅti to watch over, to keep vigil
          • West Slavic
            • Czech bdít to be awake, to watch over
    • Proto-Indo-European *bʰowdʰos action or result noun
      • Celtic *bowdos
        • Celtic *ɸrobowdos with *ɸro-: "fore-, pro-"
          • Brythonic
            • Welsh rhybudd warning, advice, notice
          • Old Irish robud forenotice
      • Indo-Iranian
        • Indo-Aryan
          • Sanskrit 𑀩𑁄𑀥 bodha
            • Sauraseni
              • Hindustani
                • Hindi बोध bodh insight, knowledge, perception, congition
        • Iranian
          • Avestan 𐬠𐬀𐬊𐬛𐬀 baoda
      • Tocharian *pāut-
        • Arshian pot- to honor, to flatter
        • Kushean paut- to honor, to flatter
          • Kushean pauto honor, flattery
    • Proto-Indo-European *bʰéwdʰtis abstract action noun
      • Balto-Slavic
        • Lithuanian bùsti wake up, wake
      • Hellenic
        • Classical Greek πύστῐς pústis inquiry, question, news, report
      • Indo-Iranian
        • Indo-Aryan
          • Sanskrit 𑀩𑀼𑀤𑁆𑀥𑀺 buddhi intelligence, reason, intellect
            • Madhya Sauraseni
              • Hindi बुद्धि buddhi intelligence
        • Iranian
          • Avestan 𐬠𐬎𐬯𐬙𐬌 busti
    • Proto-Indo-European *bʰudʰo
      • Celtic *budos
        • Brythonic
          • Welsh bodd free will, consent
      • Germanic *budą offer, message
        • West Germanic
          • Old English bod command, order, mandate
            • English bode
        • Old Norse boð
          • Danish bud command, message, guess
          • Icelandic boð message, order, offer, omen
          • Old Norse umboð commission
            • Old Norse umboðsmaðr commissary, representative, steward
              • Icelandic umboðsmaður representative, attorney, agent
              • Swedish ombudsman ombudsman
                • English ombudsman
        • Germanic *budô messenger
          • West Germanic
            • Old English boda messenger, envoy, apostle, angel, prophet
              • English bode
            • Old High German boto messenger, envoy
              • German Bote messenger, letter carrier, apostle
                • German Botschaft news, tidings, embassy
        • Germanic *budilaz messenger, herald, bearer of an order
          • West Germanic
            • Old English bydel herald, warrant officer, announce, preacher
              • English beadle
              • Scots bedel attendant to a minister
            • Old High German butil
              • German Büttel court officer, policeman, menial
            • Frankish *budil
              • Dutch beul executioner, torturer, cruel person
              • Medieval Latin bedellus
                • French bedeau attendant at a church, caretaker of a church
                • Italian bidello caretaker, janitor
                • Spanish bedel janitor
        • Germanic *budōną to proclaim, to announce, to instruct
          • West Germanic
            • Old English bodian announce, foretell, preach
              • English bode
                • English forebode
      • Indo-Iranian
        • Indo-Aryan
          • Sanskrit बुधः budhaḥ Mercury (planet), Puranic Hindu divinity associated with intellect, wit, communication, trade, and the planet Mercury
            • Magadhi
              • Bengali বুধ budh Mercury (planet)
            • Sauraseni
              • Madhya Sauraseni
                • Hindi बुध budh Mercury (planet)
              • Pali
                • Mongolian Буд Bud Mercury (planet)
                • Thai พุธ put
                  • Thai ดาวพุธ daao put Mercury (planet)
                  • Thai พระพุธ prá put Budha (Hindu deity)
                  • Thai วันพุธ wan pút Wednesday
            • Telugu బుధుడు budhuḍu Mercury (planet)
            • Sanskrit बुधवारः budhavāraḥ Mercury-day, Wednesday [4]
              • Thai วันพุธ wan pút Wednesday
              • Elu
                • Sinhala බදාදා badādā Wednesday
              • Magadhi
                • Bengali বুধবার budhbar Wendesday
              • Sauraseni
                • Madhya Sauraseni
                  • Hindi बुधवार budhvār Wednesday
              • Telugu బుధవారము budhavāramu Wednesday
              • Tibetan གཟའ་ལྷག་པ gza' lhag pa weekday-Mercury, Wednesday
                • Middle Mongolian ᡀᠠᠭᠪᠠ lhaɣba
                  • Mongolian лхагва lxagva Wednesday, Mercury
              • Literary Chinese 水曜日 Mercury-day, Wednesday
                • Mandarin 水曜日 shuǐyàorì Wednesday
                • Japanese 水曜日 / すいようび suiyōbi Wednesday
                • Korean 수요일 suyoil Wednesday
    • Proto-Indo-European *bʰudʰrós wakeful adjective
      • Balto-Slavic *budras
        • Lithuanian budrùs vigilant
        • Slavic *bъ̀drъ alert, cheerful
          • East Slavic
            • Russian бодрый bodryj cheerful, brisk, vivacious
          • South Slavic
            • Serbo-Croatian бодар bodar alert, brisk, keen, strong
      • Indo-Iranian
        • Iranian
          • Avestan *budra
            • Avestan 𐬰𐬀𐬉𐬥𐬌𐬠𐬎𐬛𐬭𐬀 zaēnibudra
  • Proto-Indo-European *gʷʰedʰ- to request, pray, ask for
    • Proto-Indo-European *gʷʰédʰyeti to be praying, to be asking for
      • Balto-Slavic
        • Lithuanian gedėti to mourn
          • Lithuanian gedėjimas mourning (noun)
        • Slavic *žę̄dàti to wish, to desire
          • East Slavic жѧдати žędati
            • Russian жадать žadatʹ crave, thirst for (archaic)
          • South Slavic
            • Old Church Slavonic жѧдати žędati to thirst, to desire
          • West Slavic
            • Polish żądać to demand
      • Celtic *gʷedyeti to pray
        • Brythonic
          • Welsh gweddïo to pray
        • Old Irish guidid to pray
          • Irish guigh to pray
      • Germanic *bidjaną to request, to ask for
        • East Germanic
          • Gothic 𐌱𐌹𐌳𐌾𐌰𐌽 bidjan to request, to ask, to pray, to beg
            • Gothic 𐌱𐌹𐌳𐌰𐌲𐍅𐌰 bidagwa beggar
        • North Germanic
          • Old Norse biðja to ask, to beg, to request, to pray
            • Danish bede to ask, to beg, to request, to pray
            • Icelandic biðja to ask, to request, to pray
        • West Germanic *biddjan
          • Old English biddan to ask for, to entreat, to beg, to demand
            • English bid [1]
          • Frankish
            • Dutch bidden to pray
          • Old High German bitten to ask
            • German bitten to ask, to plead, to beg, to request
      • Indo-Iranian
        • Iranian
          • Avestan 𐬘𐬀𐬌𐬜𐬌𐬌𐬈𐬨𐬌 jaiδiiemi
          • Western Iranian
            • Old Persian 𐎩𐎮𐎡𐎹𐎠𐎷𐎡𐎹 ja-di-i-y-a-mi-i-y I pray
    • Proto-Indo-European *gʷʰedʰeh₂ noun derivation
      • Balto-Slavic
        • Slavic *žęďa thirst, craving, wish, desire
          • East Slavic жажа žaža
          • South Slavic
            • Old Church Slavonic жѩжда žjęžda
              • Russian жажда žažda thirst, craving
            • Serbo-Croatian жеђ(а) žeđ(a) thirst
          • West Slavic
            • Polish żądza lust, craving
      • Germanic *bedō a request, a prayer, a plea
        • East Germanic
          • Gothic 𐌱𐌹𐌳𐌰 bida request, prayer, plea
        • West Germanic *bedu
          • Old English bedu request, prayer, religious worship
            • Old English Bīeda
              • English (Saint) Bede (the Venerable)
            • English bead [2]
            • Scots bede prayer, rosary
          • Frankish
            • Dutch bede plea
          • Old High German bita request, inquiry
            • German Bitte request
        • Germanic *bedōną to pray
          • West Germanic *bedōn
            • Old High German betōn to pray
              • German beten to pray
    • Proto-Indo-European *gʷʰédʰtis abstract action noun
      • Proto-Armenian *god-i-? worship?, pagan cult?
        • Old Armenian գոթի gotʿi worship, sorcery
      • Celtic *gʷeddis
        • Brythonic
          • Welsh gweddi prayer
        • Old Irish geis curse, taboo
          • Irish geis magical injunction, spell, prohibition, taboo
          • Scottish Gaelic geas
            • English geas
    • Proto-Indo-European *gʷʰodʰyeh₂
      • Celtic
        • Old Irish guide prayer
          • Irish guí prayer
    • Proto-Indo-European *gʷʰedʰos action or result noun
      • Hellenic
        • Classical Greek πόθος póthos longing, regret, desire unrelated to páthos of similar meaning
          • Greek πόθος póthos longing, regret, desire

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Collected English words

bid, (Saint) Bede (the Venerable), forbid, Buddha, bodhi, bodhisattva, (Saint) Josaphat, bode, ombudsman, bode, beadle, bode, forebode, bid, bead, geas

Footnotes

  1. ^

    Old English bēodan, "to offer" and Old English bidda, "to ask for" got confused in Middle English and merge into Modern English bid, resulting in a very confusing pair of homonym-antonyms from different PIE roots.

  2. ^

    English bead meant "prayer", then "prayer with a rosary" -> "a rosary" -> "rosary beads" -> "beads in general"

  3. ^

    "But not till the mid-nineteenth century was it recognised that, in Josaphat, the Buddha had been venerated as a Christian saint for about a thousand years." - David M. Lang's 1967 introduction to Woodward and Mattingly's 1914 translation of Barlaam and Ioasaph

  4. ^

    India and Rome had a shared inheritance of Hellenistic astrology, after the conquests of Alexander the Great expanded and transformed the Persian sphere of influence. When the astrological 7-day week of planetary hours began to replace the 8-day nundinal cycle (see last week) over the first few centuries CE, the idea spread widely through the Hellenistic world and beyond within a few hundred years.

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